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  According to this article, shouldn't the refusal of blood = suicide?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here is the society's view towards suicide:.

  what viewpoint does gods word indicate that christians should have toward suicide?.

  jehovah as the source of life has decreed that human life is precious, sacred.

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  MC RubberMallet

  NC - That's a good one.... That puts them in a position to decide which is more important...
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  According to this article, shouldn't the refusal of blood = suicide?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here is the society's view towards suicide:.

  what viewpoint does gods word indicate that christians should have toward suicide?.

  jehovah as the source of life has decreed that human life is precious, sacred.

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  SO i guess I have two issues combined. But you would think with the way they describe suicide, refusing blood would be tantamount to suicide, and blood should be accepted. So which one is it? Is Jehovah ok with a dead servant or not, if they had a chance to not be dead?
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  According to this article, shouldn't the refusal of blood = suicide?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here is the society's view towards suicide:.

  what viewpoint does gods word indicate that christians should have toward suicide?.

  jehovah as the source of life has decreed that human life is precious, sacred.

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  MC RubberMallet

  Also from that article:

  w75 7/15 pp. 447-448 Questions From Readers

  What, then, should be the attitude of members of a Christian congregation as to attending funerals of reported suicides who may have been associated with the congregation? What about an elder who has received a request to conduct such a funeral? Where death appears to have been accidental, even though it was reported as a suicide or may have involved mental illness, the consciences of some members of the congregation may permit them to attend the funeral to comfort the bereaved ones. Also, it is left up to the personal decision of an elder whether he will conduct such a funeral upon request. However, the congregation may prefer not to sponsor such a funeral publicly or to have it in the Kingdom Hall because of the effect it may have on the uninformed community (What effect? Do they know the effect of NOT sponsoring a funeral for one of your OWN?!).

  On the other hand, where it is a clearly established suicide, members of the congregation and elders may desire not to become involved in the funeral (And that's ok, huh?). In such cases arrangements would be left to the family itself for a private funeral where some member of the household might say a few words for the sake of the relatives (So now the family is stuck with 10,000 in debt and even worse, a DEAD family member, the members of the congregation and community views this harshly, but whatever, the member should have thought about this before.) Furthermore, some may not desire to attend a funeral of one who is believed to have committed suicide where the funeral is conducted by someone other than a member of the congregation or by the funeral director himself at the request of the family.
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  According to this article, shouldn't the refusal of blood = suicide?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  here is the society's view towards suicide:.

  what viewpoint does gods word indicate that christians should have toward suicide?.

  jehovah as the source of life has decreed that human life is precious, sacred.

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  MC RubberMallet

  Here is the society's view towards suicide:

  What viewpoint does God’s Word indicate that Christians should have toward suicide?

  w757/15p.447QuestionsFromReaders

  Jehovah as the source of life has decreed that human life is precious, sacred. (Gen. 9:5; Ps. 36:9) Hence, suicide, which means the taking of one’s own life, or killing oneself, is condemned by the Bible. Such intentional act is self-murder. (Ex. 20:13; 1 John 3:15) The few suicides mentioned in the Bible are of those who were unfaithful to Jehovah and who failed to consider that their lives really belonged to God.—1 Sam. 31:4; 2 Sam. 17:5-14, 23; 1 Ki. 16:18; Matt. 27:5.

  One who intentionally takes his own life does so in utter disregard for the sacredness of life; he becomes bloodguilty. When one commits suicide while in possession of one’s mental faculties, this shows one to be void of morality, lacking faith, having no fear of God. It is a cowardly act, where one refuses to face up to the problems and responsibilities of life. If the person claimed to be a true Christian, the act would violently break his relationship with Jehovah. Suicide may be the giving in to pressures from demons who encourage self-destruction. (Matt. 17:14-18) This extremely self-centered act of murder manifests no love for one’s surviving family members, no love for one’s congregation and friends, and no love even for the surrounding community, as it brings shame and distress of mind upon all associates.—Mark 12:31.

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  As lovers of righteousness we leave the matter in the hands of a merciful, all-wise God as to any possible future for some of those driven to suicide. We who are lovers of life, holding every day of life sacred, endeavor to conduct our daily affairs and associations in a way that will merit the approval of the One who gave life to humankind.

  My thoughts: For one, I do not feel such a cold loathing towards victims of suicide. But since they do, is this not what is happening when on refuses blood?!! I mean is this not a HUGE double standard? You would think if the option was suicide or blood, well, at least an ALIVE person can still serve Jehovah. What the heck?
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  BOO Letter July 8, 2032

  by baltar447 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear brothers,.

  with the growing popularity of "home cyborg companions" it has come to our attention that this could be a temptation among some of our weaker brothers.

  the society has always published a balanced view of such cyborg companions [wt 4-2029].

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  UPDATE:

  Dear Brothers,

  There have been many reports of brothers thinking of purchasing cyborgs for sexual purposes. Before such a purchase is made, please consider the following scriptures:

  (Judges 3:17) 17 And he proceeded to present the tribute to Eg′lon the king of Mo′ab. Now Eg′lon was a very fat man. Undoubtedly, the Bible writer was aware of health conditions associated with having sex with cyborgs. We do well do ask, Why did Jehovah include this in his Word if it did not apply to us thousands of years later?

  (Leviticus 19:18) 18 “‘You must not take vengeance nor have a grudge against the sons of your people; and you must love your fellow as yourself. I am Jehovah. Nowhere in this scripture does it say 'you must love cyborgs'. If such an important matter was neglected by Jehovah, what does that tell us about how he feels about it?

  (Psalm 139:21-22) 21 Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, And do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? 22 With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become to me real [cyborgs]. Is God's feelings on the matter not clear?

  If what we say does not prove to be scripturally sound, read Matthew 24:45-47. Then read it again. Then one more time. It matters not if we are wrong. Or we add to the Bible. You need to obey us. Jehovah said so. Don't make us sigh.

  Your Brothers,

  Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
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  12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.

  "a college graduate in the united states.

  says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.

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  MC RubberMallet

  That post was a poor attempt at satire. I meant no confusion...
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  12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.

  "a college graduate in the united states.

  says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.

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  VM44 - Sorry for the confusion. I made up the highlighted portions in red.

  I do not believe the story is completely made up (although I never thought the GB would lie to us also). Because to "spiritual people", nothing else matters but spiritual experiences. One could run like Usain Bolt, be rich like Trump, as intelligent as Rain Man, and have a body like Tyler Perry (record stops). Ok, maybe not like Tyler Perry. But NONE of these matter to "spiritual" dubs. So when people enter the org, they feel the need to make up, or embellish experiences to fit in. So possibly some sister did write this, but of course it was modified by Writing to make it say what they want it to say.

  And no name = no liability. So it could be anyone. Even the sister that did write this may not know they fixed her quote. And even if she did know, it would be ok to be used to serve Jehovah's purpose, even through deception.
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  Need Help, Please!

  by palmtree67 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we got a new dog and he needs a name!

  he was abandoned by his family in their back yard when they moved and then was rescued by animal rescue.

  he's been fostered for the last 4 months and his foster mom called him martin.

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  MC RubberMallet

  It has to be an onomatopoeia!

  EEE-YOW!

  VRONK!

  CLANK!
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  I need help with Free Minds - volunteers who are reliable and fun-hearted

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems like i never give up looking for volunteers.

  they can be hard to work with, dry out, or are unpredictable.

  some get downright nasty and become very undesirable.

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  Let me know what I can do!
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  12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.

  "a college graduate in the united states.

  says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.

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  MC RubberMallet

  FULL QUOTE available here!

  "A college graduate in the United States says: “I spent 18 years speaking and writing in the abstract language of higher education, well, education from the country I was born and reared in. I developed a habit of speaking and thinking in a way that was more complicated than necessary, in my mother tongue. I realized I needed to make big changes in my way of thinking and speaking, in order to fully embrace English.” Now an effective evangelizer, she writes: “The simplified Watchtower has proved to be a great help in grasping the language of this country I moved to a month before the issue came out. I never had any exposure to English before this, so I like the simple edition. Therefore, its language gives me an excellent example of how to put things simply.”